tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104858724022491504.post6159072988901972746..comments2023-05-17T04:25:10.041-04:00Comments on Occam's Kangaroo: Explosive pass rushers!Sidney Mussburgerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03104367326238874951noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104858724022491504.post-67898618720660095692013-07-03T13:33:17.935-04:002013-07-03T13:33:17.935-04:00The interior of the line could be interesting. I&...The interior of the line could be interesting. I'm excited to see what Shipley will do, since the computer is a fan of his, and he seems to have done well when given an opportunity. McKinnie is always a wild card, who seems to vary according to how interested he is in giving an effort. The computer suggested that Oher was likely to be mediocre, so I'm not surprised by what he has become. Hopefully he can step up this year.<br /><br />I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about 3-4 OLBs, to some degree. I'm not disagreeing that dropping into coverage and stopping the run matter, I just place less importance on it. I know we probably won't agree on this, but I never had a high opinion of Jarret Johnson. He was likable, hard working, and tough, but I never felt his impact on the team was that significant. Still, I can see why he was a fan favorite, and probably a good teammate. I also haven't seen much to suggest that he or Upshaw were ever particularly good in coverage, though this doesn't concern me too much.<br /><br />As for Everette Brown, it's fine to suggest that the scheme was the problem, but without seeing him succeed in another scheme, that is just speculation. At this point, all we know is that he failed to produce much, and that fits with what the computer expected.Sidney Mussburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03104367326238874951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104858724022491504.post-60294648389990568972013-07-03T13:12:09.560-04:002013-07-03T13:12:09.560-04:00The offensive line should be fine (guard wise........The offensive line should be fine (guard wise.....) Center is an issue.... but gino did do very well against geno atkins in the final game. A.Q shipley graded out pretty good as the colts center when he started (he was traded for because our only backup center was a rookie and to provide real competition) LT should be okay-ish...... Mckinnie can't be any worse than oher.... Ever since his rookie campaign oher has sucked.... idk whether it's the o-line coach,scheme,weight or something..... but he looks like a mediocre-sucky RT. He has brilliant stretches.... (didn't give up a sack to demarcus ware bobbie williams did) Then...... ka-boom i remember when he had like 3 straight penalties on a drive..... my god he sucks...and 3-4 OLB's main quality isn't rushing the passer you have to be good in coverage and stop the run which upshaw can do. Everetee brown busted because of scheme fit... (3-4 OLB not a 4-3 DE) Upshaw isn't the most gifted athletically...... SAM linebacker (the position which upshaw played most of last year) Is basically a stopping the run,being good in coverage type of role. Look at jarret johnson.... was he a great pass rusher? Was he overly athletic? was he oversized? no he wasn't big he wasn't fast and he was iffy at rushing the passer.Tylerhttp://lol.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104858724022491504.post-34034146816598099952013-07-03T11:24:55.617-04:002013-07-03T11:24:55.617-04:00Actually, the numbers suggest that Quentin Groves,...Actually, the numbers suggest that Quentin Groves, Aaron Curry, and Aaron Maybin were unlikely to be anything special. Maybe I just misunderstood your comment. While some of them may have done well in one of the categories I measure, overall all three of them had scores that were average at best. Aaron Curry had the best combination of physical traits (0.430 Total Score), and college productivity (14.75 Avg. TFL), but still didn't score highly enough to merit a first round pick. According to this system, Curry should have been, approximately, a 3rd round pick. Still, he has probably become the most productive out of the "busts" I listed him with.<br /><br />With Upshaw, you are right about his college productivity. It was fairly impressive. Still, that is only part of the puzzle for me, and athletically he was beyond just bad, according to what we can measure. I wouldn't be disappointed at all if he turns out to be good, I just don't think that is very likely to happen. As far as his ability to stop the run, that is obviously a good skill to have, but I don't think it is the primary trait a team should look for in their 3-4 OLBs or 4-3 DEs. It is kind of like saying that a wide receiver is good at blocking for his running back. Yeah, that's cool, but a WR's main job is still about catching the ball. I just think that pass rushing should be the primary skill for a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. Like I said, I wish Upshaw the best, but I think if the team really had confidence in him they wouldn't have pushed him into a backup role by signing Dumerville. That Upshaw didn't noticeably outperform Albert McClellan (an undrafted OLB) also concerns me. It will take time for this all to sort itself out, so, we'll see what happens.<br /><br />You're right though, last year's defense was pretty horrible for the Ravens, so judging Upshaw becomes more tricky. If it makes any difference, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they are significantly better this year. The offensive line, on the other hand, makes me a bit nervous.Sidney Mussburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03104367326238874951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104858724022491504.post-16416539608547539732013-07-03T04:31:44.694-04:002013-07-03T04:31:44.694-04:00Love the fact quentin groves,Aaronn curry,aaron ma...Love the fact quentin groves,Aaronn curry,aaron maybin we're supposed to be hall of famers according to your score.... You love TFL upshaw has the 3rd most on your list that show's he an aggressive run stuffing linebacker who can get behind the line of scrimmage. For a high second round pick who rotates in the starting lineup in a 3-4 Defense who contributes say 5-7 sacks a year (I don't think he'll ever be an elite pass rusher but he'll be a solid pass rusher) Look upshaw proved to be a solid starting linebacker last year (as a rookie he was solid considering the defense was sh** for most of the season) i think he'll be solid with a chance to grow (Much like joe flacco) Tylerhttp://lol.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104858724022491504.post-38931960950347504262013-07-01T22:55:25.648-04:002013-07-01T22:55:25.648-04:00Just to be clear, I am not jumping to conclusions ...Just to be clear, I am not jumping to conclusions about Coutney Upshaw based on his rookie year. No, I wrote him off before he was even drafted. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. While I have my (STRONG) doubts about Upshaw, I do think John Simon could become an interesting player. Probably not a star, but perhaps solid and serviceable. Sidney Mussburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03104367326238874951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104858724022491504.post-8043771171009684432013-07-01T04:15:04.334-04:002013-07-01T04:15:04.334-04:00Wow upshaw's a bust...? I'm a ravens fan m...Wow upshaw's a bust...? I'm a ravens fan myself and i hardly beleive he'll bust..... I mean sure he didn't exactly do much his 1st year but c'mon it was his rookie year! Rookie year's mean nothing (unless ur a QB) he was getting used to being a 3-4 OLB he'll be a situational pass rusher until suggs is allowed to leave once his contract is up. Then he'll start next to dumerville. (or john simon if he becomes the next jarret johnson like i think he will)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com